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 Supplemental oxygen for mushrooms  #16175031 - 05/03/12 01:33 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
As I understand it, plants primarily absorb, rather than exude CO2 (which is a necessary nutrient for them) and primarily exude, rather than absorb O (which is a waste product of theirs, that can quickly build up to toxic levels for them in an improperly ventilated grow chamber) and, that this is the converse of the needs of mushrooms. There are indoor cannabis producers who supplement the CO2 in their growing area, usually with the use of tanks, and while this is of course not necessary, it supposedly increases the quality and or quantity of their yield to such an extent as to justify the added expense. Information on how much CO2 to add is easily available to anyone wants it. Is doing the equivalent with O for a mushroom grow worth considering, and has the way to do it already been worked out?
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 Re: Supplemental oxygen for mushrooms [Re: Pick] #16175103 - 05/03/12 02:02 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
Interesting. I'm not sure it'd be worth it though. If you've got an oxygen concentrator or a tank lying around, give it a try. probably simpler to just give them as much FAE as possible while keeping the humidity in the right range. Get all the other factors perfect before you mess with supplemental gases, just like with cannabis. ALso thinking that you get a benefit for plants because co2 is such a small percentage of air to begin with. oxygen is 21%, I doubt mushrooms would be able to use all that up. extra might go unnoticed.
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| Re: Supplemental oxygen for mushrooms [Re: Pick] #16175139 - 05/03/12 02:24 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
I would love to see this done, I've thought about this before. I think it would definitely be a worthy experiment. Air quality is not what it was 100 yrs ago.. plus look at oxygen bars..
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| Re: Supplemental oxygen for mushrooms [Re: Obsesshroom] #16175281 - 05/03/12 03:52 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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probably simpler to just give them as much FAE as possible while keeping the humidity in the right range.
It occurs to me that if you could keep a small amount of oxygen from a tank or concentrator coming in, and somehow absorb the carbon dioxide that the mushrooms produce (and I’m assuming that it can’t be all that much CO2) using some kind of, say, powder that you leave inside the tub this would greatly relieve the need to provide so much free air exchange. As a result, maintaining even 100% humidity should be trivial under such conditions, plus, there would be the added benefit of retarding the intake of airborne bacteria and spores, and it’s conceivable that that could decrease the frequency of contaminations occurring. But it’s also conceivable that a build-up of CO2, and a depletion of O is not the only way that the air can (shall I say) go stale.
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| Re: Supplemental oxygen for mushrooms [Re: Pick] #16175358 - 05/03/12 04:45 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
hmm after reading you gave me an idea
im gonna take one or two of my bonsai plant and and throw them in my martha
wonder what would happen
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| Re: Supplemental oxygen for mushrooms [Re: Dazed Belief] #16175397 - 05/03/12 05:12 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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hmm after reading you gave me an idea
im gonna take one or two of my bonsai plant and and throw them in my martha
wonder what would happen
Yes plants and fungi have a symbiotic relationship in in various ways, and this is one of them. But what's the best ratio of green stuff to mushy stuff I don't know. From what I've read so far on the shroomery, CO2 is heavier than O, so arranging your trees on the bottom and your shrooms up top would make the most sense. However, if your martha is just completely open on the bottom than I don't imagine that this would make much difference, at least for your bonsai.
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| Re: Supplemental oxygen for mushrooms [Re: Pick] #16175521 - 05/03/12 06:32 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
Does nobody use the search anymore? We've had dozens of people set up oxygen tanks, liquid O2, concentrators, and a sh*t-ton of plants in their grow rooms. Other than the plants, none of them had the slightest effect whatever. The plants of course caused the mushroom substrates to become contaminated. Mushrooms/mushroom mycelium does not have use for an O2 level above 19%.
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